https://dailyhistory.org/index.php?title=How_Historically_Accurate_Is_Victoria_and_Abdul&feed=atom&action=historyHow Historically Accurate Is Victoria and Abdul - Revision history2024-03-28T14:39:13ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.30.0https://dailyhistory.org/index.php?title=How_Historically_Accurate_Is_Victoria_and_Abdul&diff=24168&oldid=prevAdmin: Admin moved page How Historically Accurate Is Victoria and Abdul? to How Historically Accurate Is Victoria and Abdul2021-09-27T17:38:53Z<p>Admin moved page <a href="/How_Historically_Accurate_Is_Victoria_and_Abdul%3F" class="mw-redirect" title="How Historically Accurate Is Victoria and Abdul?">How Historically Accurate Is Victoria and Abdul?</a> to <a href="/How_Historically_Accurate_Is_Victoria_and_Abdul" title="How Historically Accurate Is Victoria and Abdul">How Historically Accurate Is Victoria and Abdul</a></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Most of the characters depicted were historical. Mohammad Bakhs is a fictional character and relatively little is known about Abdul's wife and family. However, the jealousies, including Abdul's involvement in the Golden Jubilee are true. One problem for historians is because Edward destroyed many of the Queen's records, most of the accounts come from Abdul's family that were obtained much later after Abdul and the Queen had died. Thus, it is possible we are not getting an evenhanded perspective of their relationship. Nevertheless, it does seem the Queen was about to knight Abdul and had to settle in making him Commander of the Royal Victorian Order due to court pressure. The Queen also gave him many gifts, including land in India.  </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Most of the characters depicted were historical. Mohammad Bakhs is a fictional character and relatively little is known about Abdul's wife and family. However, the jealousies, including Abdul's involvement in the Golden Jubilee are true. One problem for historians is because Edward destroyed many of the Queen's records, most of the accounts come from Abdul's family that were obtained much later after Abdul and the Queen had died. Thus, it is possible we are not getting an evenhanded perspective of their relationship. Nevertheless, it does seem the Queen was about to knight Abdul and had to settle in making him Commander of the Royal Victorian Order due to court pressure. The Queen also gave him many gifts, including land in India.  </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><i>Victoria and Abdul</i> is a 2017 movie set in the late Victorian period in 1887-1901. Abdul Karim was appointed as a household servant to Queen Victoria and he became a close friend and teacher (or <i>Munish</i>) to the queen, lasting until her death. The movie depicts this relationship and the various forms of racism and animosity encountered by Abdul as he navigated being a person of South Asian decent who rose to prominence in the household during the Victorian period.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><i>Victoria and Abdul</i> is a 2017 movie set in the late Victorian period in 1887-1901. Abdul Karim was appointed as a household servant to Queen Victoria and he became a close friend and teacher (or <i>Munish</i>) to the queen, lasting until her death. The movie depicts this relationship and the various forms of racism and animosity encountered by Abdul as he navigated being a person of South Asian decent who rose to prominence in the household during the Victorian period.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><i>Victoria and Abdul</i> is a 2017 movie set in the late Victorian period in 1887-1901. Abdul Karim was appointed as a household servant to Queen Victoria and he became a close friend and teacher (or <i>Munish</i>) to the queen, lasting until her death. The movie depicts this relationship and the various forms of racism and animosity encountered by Abdul as he navigated being a person of South Asian decent who rose to prominence in the household during the Victorian period.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><i>Victoria and Abdul</i> is a 2017 movie set in the late Victorian period in 1887-1901. Abdul Karim was appointed as a household servant to Queen Victoria and he became a close friend and teacher (or <i>Munish</i>) to the queen, lasting until her death. The movie depicts this relationship and the various forms of racism and animosity encountered by Abdul as he navigated being a person of South Asian decent who rose to prominence in the household during the Victorian period.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">==Plot==</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Abdul <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Karim is a cleric serving in Agra India for the British rulers. He is selected to go to Britain, along with a colleague Mohammed, for the Queen's Golden Jubilee, marking 50 years on throne. Initially, both men are surprised by this appointment but dutifully go. The men are trained for the ceremonies that are to follow for the Jubilee celebrations, but they are treated poorly given uncomfortable accommodations that are damp, cold, and cramped</ins>. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">When it comes time, however, for the men to play their role, and after the Queen arrives for a formal banquet with her guests, she receives a </ins><i><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">mohur</ins></i><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, a type of gold coin, from Abdul. This was an item that was to represent a gift from India to Victoria, as she is Empress of India. </ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Abdul Karim is a cleric serving in Agra India for the British rulers. He is selected to go to Britain, along with a colleague Mohammed, for the Queen's Golden Jubilee, marking 50 years on throne. Initially, both men are surprised by this appointment but dutifully go. The men are trained for the ceremonies that are to follow for the Jubilee celebrations, but they are treated poorly given uncomfortable accommodations that are damp, cold, and cramped. When it comes time, however, for the men to play their role, and after the Queen arrives for a formal banquet with her guests, she receives a <i>mohur</i>, a type of gold coin, from Abdul. This was an item that was to represent a gift from India to Victoria, as she is Empress of India. </del>However, the Queen is more fascinated with Abdul than anything else. She soon forms a bond with him, asking him to teach her Urdu and about Islam. Nevertheless, their relationship suddenly grows tense when she finds out Abdul is married. She then decided to have him go back and bring his wife to live in England along with Abdul, with him continuing to serve her in the royal household.  Meanwhile, the other courtiers are increasingly bothered by the close relationship Abdul and Victoria form, including Edward, the future King of Great Britain, who is troubled by his mother's relationship with Abdul. Victoria, recognizing she is Empress of India, wants to learn more about India and decides to decorate part of her home in the Isle of Wight in an Indian style. She continues to make progress in understanding Urdu. Abdul now has the formal title of <i>Munshi</i> as Victoria's teacher.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>However, the Queen is more fascinated with Abdul than anything else. She soon forms a bond with him, asking him to teach her Urdu and about Islam. Nevertheless, their relationship suddenly grows tense when she finds out Abdul is married. She then decided to have him go back and bring his wife to live in England along with Abdul, with him continuing to serve her in the royal household.  Meanwhile, the other courtiers are increasingly bothered by the close relationship Abdul and Victoria form, including Edward, the future King of Great Britain, who is troubled by his mother's relationship with Abdul. Victoria, recognizing she is Empress of India, wants to learn more about India and decides to decorate part of her home in the Isle of Wight in an Indian style. She continues to make progress in understanding Urdu. Abdul now has the formal title of <i>Munshi</i> as Victoria's teacher.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Abdul and Victoria form a close relationship that is like mother and son, with Victoria preferring to spend more time with Abdul than her own son. However, the court begins to create trouble. First, they call out a lie that Abdul told Victoria about the Indian Mutiny, a prolonged Indians rebellion against British rule, where he downplayed rebellions by some of the Indian population. After learning about this lie, and because he embarrassed her as the Queen's courtiers corrected information she though she knew, Victoria decided to expel Abdul but then changes her mind at the last moment. They also learn that, despite Abdul's initial presentation, Abudl does not have royal or noble blood, thus he exalted his social status to Victoria. But again Victoria is not bothered by this. The Marquess of Salisbury, who is Prime Minister, also gets involved in trying to get rid of Abdul. The court officials and Prime Minister find out Abdul has gonorrhea, but again the Queen stays loyal to Abdul and is not put off by this. With all this plotting, the Queen now decides to Knight Abdul, which the entire household of the Queen finds completely unacceptable. The staff threaten to resign unless Victoria rescinds her offer to Abdul. She then confronts her entire household about their rebellion, although none offer to resign when given the opportunity. The Queen informs her household though she will only make Abdul Commander of the Royal Victorian Order, a lower honour than being knighted, although most still do not like this choice. Soon after, the Queen becomes increasingly sick and becomes bedridden. She realizes that the court will turn against Abdul once she is gone. However, Abdul stays with the Queen until her end and in 1901 she passes<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">. However, just as the Queen predicted, soon after she dies the court and Edward turn on Abdul. They destroy his gifts and even the Queen's own accounts of her time with Abdul, leaving relatively little for historians and others to learn about her time with Abdul. Despite the confrontational way in which Abdul and his family were removed from court, Abdul's wife managed to save one present Victoria gave Abdul, which was a locket, while they are then forced to flee back to India. A few years later, Abdul is shown still talking and revering the Queen by tending to her statue in an area near the Taj Mahal. In 1909, Abdul dies and most of the story about Abdul became lost only to come to light years after Victoria died because Abdul's family did save records of their time together</del>.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Abdul and Victoria form a close relationship that is like mother and son, with Victoria preferring to spend more time with Abdul than her own son. However, the court begins to create trouble. First, they call out a lie that Abdul told Victoria about the Indian Mutiny, a prolonged Indians rebellion against British rule, where he downplayed rebellions by some of the Indian population. After learning about this lie, and because he embarrassed her as the Queen's courtiers corrected information she though she knew, Victoria decided to expel Abdul but then changes her mind at the last moment. They also learn that, despite Abdul's initial presentation, Abudl does not have royal or noble blood, thus he exalted his social status to Victoria. But again Victoria is not bothered by this. The Marquess of Salisbury, who is Prime Minister, also gets involved in trying to get rid of Abdul. The court officials and Prime Minister find out Abdul has gonorrhea, but again the Queen stays loyal to Abdul and is not put off by this.  </div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>With all this plotting, the Queen now decides to Knight Abdul, which the entire household of the Queen finds completely unacceptable. The staff threaten to resign unless Victoria rescinds her offer to Abdul. She then confronts her entire household about their rebellion, although none offer to resign when given the opportunity. The Queen informs her household though she will only make Abdul Commander of the Royal Victorian Order, a lower honour than being knighted, although most still do not like this choice. Soon after, the Queen becomes increasingly sick and becomes bedridden. She realizes that the court will turn against Abdul once she is gone. However, Abdul stays with the Queen until her end and in 1901 she passes.  </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">==Main Characters==</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">However, just as the Queen predicted, soon after she dies the court and Edward turn on Abdul. They destroy his gifts and even the Queen's own accounts of her time with Abdul, leaving relatively little for historians and others to learn about her time with Abdul. Despite the confrontational way in which Abdul and his family were removed from court, Abdul's wife managed to save one present Victoria gave Abdul, which was a locket, while they are then forced to flee back to India. A few years later, Abdul is shown still talking and revering the Queen by tending to her statue in an area near the Taj Mahal. In 1909, Abdul dies and most of the story about Abdul became lost only to come to light years after Victoria died because Abdul's family did save records of their time together.</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">====Main Characters====</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Most of the characters were historical characters. Much of the bigotry and jealousies are based on accounts given from Victoria's own writings.<ref>For more on Victoria's court, see: Schomp, V (2010) <i>Victoria and Her Court. Life in Victorian England</i>. New York: Marshall Cavendish Benchmark.</ref>  </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Most of the characters were historical characters. Much of the bigotry and jealousies are based on accounts given from Victoria's own writings.<ref>For more on Victoria's court, see: Schomp, V (2010) <i>Victoria and Her Court. Life in Victorian England</i>. New York: Marshall Cavendish Benchmark.</ref>  </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Rashidan Karim: Abdul's wife, who is shown as being covered in a black head-to-toe in Islamic dress. This only makes the courtiers more uncomfortable with Abdul; however, the Queen is fascinated by her and meets with Abdul and her in private to see what Rashidan looks like.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Rashidan Karim: Abdul's wife, who is shown as being covered in a black head-to-toe in Islamic dress. This only makes the courtiers more uncomfortable with Abdul; however, the Queen is fascinated by her and meets with Abdul and her in private to see what Rashidan looks like.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{{Mediawiki:AmNative}}</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">====Significance====</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Most of the characters depicted were historical. Mohammad Bakhs is a fictional character and relatively little is known about Abdul's wife and family. However, the jealousies, including Abdul's involvement in the Golden Jubilee are true. One problem for historians is because Edward destroyed many of the Queen's records, most of the accounts come from Abdul's family that were obtained much later after Abdul and the Queen had died. Thus, it is possible we are not getting an evenhanded perspective of their relationship. Nevertheless, it does seem the Queen was about to knight Abdul and had to settle in making him Commander of the Royal Victorian Order due to court pressure. The Queen also gave him many gifts, including land in India. </ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">==Significance==</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">This was little discussed in the movie, but Abdul did grow very wealthy during his time with the Queen and he managed to keep that wealth in India after he was forced out of court. It is not clear if Abdul lied about some key events in India's relationship with Britain; it is also not clear he directly affected policy in India, although he did increase the Queen's interest in the subcontinent. It is not clear if the Queen did try to kick Abdul out at one point, as there is no evidence that she was close to doing so. Nevertheless, much of the movie is accurate in showing that the Queen took interest in learning Urdu and about Islam. She was genuinely interested in learning about her subjects in India and Abdul did help her learn about India, its history, and culture. Overall, the movie depicted a close relationship between two unlikely individuals that caused great stress, particularly in light of the racism and bigotry of the time, but their friendship proved to be genuine for both the Queen and Abdul.<ref>For more on the history of Victoria and Abdul, see:  Basu S (2011) <i>Victoria & Abdul: The True Story of the Queen’s Closest Confidant</i>. Gloucestershire, Eng.: History Press.</ref></ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Most of the characters depicted were historical. Mohammad Bakhs is a fictional character and relatively little is known about Abdul's wife and family. However, the jealousies, including Abdul's involvement in the Golden Jubilee are true. One problem for historians is because Edward destroyed many of the Queen's records, most of the accounts come from Abdul's family that were obtained much later after Abdul and the Queen had died. Thus, it is possible we are not getting an evenhanded perspective of their relationship. Nevertheless, it does seem the Queen was about to knight Abdul and had to settle in making him Commander of the Royal Victorian Order due to court pressure. The Queen also gave him many gifts, including land in India. This was little discussed in the movie, but Abdul did grow very wealthy during his time with the Queen and he managed to keep that wealth in India after he was forced out of court. It is not clear if Abdul lied about some key events in India's relationship with Britain; it is also not clear he directly affected policy in India, although he did increase the Queen's interest in the subcontinent. It is not clear if the Queen did try to kick Abdul out at one point, as there is no evidence that she was close to doing so. Nevertheless, much of the movie is accurate in showing that the Queen took interest in learning Urdu and about Islam. She was genuinely interested in learning about her subjects in India and Abdul did help her learn about India, its history, and culture. Overall, the movie depicted a close relationship between two unlikely individuals that caused great stress, particularly in light of the racism and bigotry of the time, but their friendship proved to be genuine for both the Queen and Abdul.<ref>For more on the history of Victoria and Abdul, see:  Basu S (2011) <i>Victoria & Abdul: The True Story of the Queen’s Closest Confidant</i>. Gloucestershire, Eng.: History Press.</del></<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">ref</del>></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">====References====</ins></div></td></tr>
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</table>Adminhttps://dailyhistory.org/index.php?title=How_Historically_Accurate_Is_Victoria_and_Abdul&diff=19327&oldid=prevAltaweel: /* Significance */2019-11-15T10:48:37Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Significance</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Most of the characters depicted were historical. Mohammad Bakhs is a fictional character and relatively little is known about Abdul's wife and family. However, the jealousies, including Abdul's involvement in the Golden Jubilee are true. One problem for historians is because Edward destroyed many of the Queen's records, most of the accounts come from Abdul's family that were obtained much later after Abdul and the Queen had died. Nevertheless, it does seem the Queen was about to knight Abdul and had to settle in making him Commander of the Royal Victorian Order due to court pressure. The Queen also gave him many gifts, including land in India. This was little discussed in the movie, but Abdul did grow very wealthy during his time with the Queen and he managed to keep that wealth in India after he was forced out of court. It is not clear if Abdul lied about some key events in India's relationship with Britain; it is also not clear he directly affected policy in India, although he did increase the Queen's interest in the subcontinent. It is not clear if the Queen did try to kick Abdul out at one point, as there is no evidence that she was close to doing so. Nevertheless, much of the movie is accurate in showing that the Queen took interest in learning Urdu and about Islam. She was genuinely interested in learning about her subjects in India and Abdul did help her learn about India, its history, and culture. Overall, the movie depicted a close relationship between two unlikely individuals that caused great stress, particularly in light of the racism and bigotry of the time, but their friendship proved to be genuine for both the Queen and Abdul.<ref>For more on the history of Victoria and Abdul, see:  Basu S (2011) <i>Victoria & Abdul: The True Story of the Queen’s Closest Confidant</i>. Gloucestershire, Eng.: History Press.</ref></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Most of the characters depicted were historical. Mohammad Bakhs is a fictional character and relatively little is known about Abdul's wife and family. However, the jealousies, including Abdul's involvement in the Golden Jubilee are true. One problem for historians is because Edward destroyed many of the Queen's records, most of the accounts come from Abdul's family that were obtained much later after Abdul and the Queen had died<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">. Thus, it is possible we are not getting an evenhanded perspective of their relationship</ins>. Nevertheless, it does seem the Queen was about to knight Abdul and had to settle in making him Commander of the Royal Victorian Order due to court pressure. The Queen also gave him many gifts, including land in India. This was little discussed in the movie, but Abdul did grow very wealthy during his time with the Queen and he managed to keep that wealth in India after he was forced out of court. It is not clear if Abdul lied about some key events in India's relationship with Britain; it is also not clear he directly affected policy in India, although he did increase the Queen's interest in the subcontinent. It is not clear if the Queen did try to kick Abdul out at one point, as there is no evidence that she was close to doing so. Nevertheless, much of the movie is accurate in showing that the Queen took interest in learning Urdu and about Islam. She was genuinely interested in learning about her subjects in India and Abdul did help her learn about India, its history, and culture. Overall, the movie depicted a close relationship between two unlikely individuals that caused great stress, particularly in light of the racism and bigotry of the time, but their friendship proved to be genuine for both the Queen and Abdul.<ref>For more on the history of Victoria and Abdul, see:  Basu S (2011) <i>Victoria & Abdul: The True Story of the Queen’s Closest Confidant</i>. Gloucestershire, Eng.: History Press.</ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Most of the characters depicted were historical. Mohammad Bakhs is a fictional character and relatively little is known about Abdul's wife and family. However, the jealousies, including Abdul's involvement in the Golden Jubilee are true. One problem is because Edward destroyed many of the Queen's records, most of the accounts come from Abdul's family that were obtained much later after Abdul and the Queen had died. Nevertheless, it does seem the Queen was about to knight Abdul and had to settle in making him Commander of the Royal Victorian Order. The Queen also gave him many gifts, including land in India. This was little discussed in the movie, but Abdul did grow very wealthy during his time with the Queen and he managed to keep that wealth in India after he was forced out of court. It is not clear if Abdul lied about some key events in India's relationship with Britain. It is not clear if the Queen did try to kick Abdul out at one point, as there is no evidence that she was close to doing so. Nevertheless, much of the movie is accurate in showing that the Queen took interest in learning Urdu and about Islam. She was genuinely interested in learning about her subjects in India and Abdul did help her learn about India, its history, and culture. Overall, the movie depicted a close relationship between two unlikely individuals that caused great stress, particularly in light of the racism and bigotry, but <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">that </del>proved to be genuine for the Queen and Abdul.<ref>For more on the history of Victoria and Abdul, see:  Basu S (2011) <i>Victoria & Abdul: The True Story of the Queen’s Closest Confidant</i>. Gloucestershire, Eng.: History Press.</ref></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Most of the characters depicted were historical. Mohammad Bakhs is a fictional character and relatively little is known about Abdul's wife and family. However, the jealousies, including Abdul's involvement in the Golden Jubilee are true. One problem <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">for historians </ins>is because Edward destroyed many of the Queen's records, most of the accounts come from Abdul's family that were obtained much later after Abdul and the Queen had died. Nevertheless, it does seem the Queen was about to knight Abdul and had to settle in making him Commander of the Royal Victorian Order <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">due to court pressure</ins>. The Queen also gave him many gifts, including land in India. This was little discussed in the movie, but Abdul did grow very wealthy during his time with the Queen and he managed to keep that wealth in India after he was forced out of court. It is not clear if Abdul lied about some key events in India's relationship with Britain<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">; it is also not clear he directly affected policy in India, although he did increase the Queen's interest in the subcontinent</ins>. It is not clear if the Queen did try to kick Abdul out at one point, as there is no evidence that she was close to doing so. Nevertheless, much of the movie is accurate in showing that the Queen took interest in learning Urdu and about Islam. She was genuinely interested in learning about her subjects in India and Abdul did help her learn about India, its history, and culture. Overall, the movie depicted a close relationship between two unlikely individuals that caused great stress, particularly in light of the racism and bigotry <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">of the time</ins>, but <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">their friendship </ins>proved to be genuine for <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">both </ins>the Queen and Abdul.<ref>For more on the history of Victoria and Abdul, see:  Basu S (2011) <i>Victoria & Abdul: The True Story of the Queen’s Closest Confidant</i>. Gloucestershire, Eng.: History Press.</ref></div></td></tr>
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</table>Altaweelhttps://dailyhistory.org/index.php?title=How_Historically_Accurate_Is_Victoria_and_Abdul&diff=19325&oldid=prevAltaweel: /* Main Characters */2019-11-15T10:45:46Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Main Characters</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Edward (future Edward VII): Better known as Bertie, he is shown as being jealous and guarded about courtiers, in particular Abdul. He finds it horrifying that someone from the India subcontinent has cultivated <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">such </del>a close relationship with his mother.<ref>For more on Edward, see:  Ridley J (2013) <i>The Heir Apparent: A Life of Edward VII, the Playboy Prince</i>. First U.S. edition. New York: Random House.</ref></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Edward (future Edward VII): Better known as Bertie, he is shown as being jealous and guarded about courtiers, in particular Abdul <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">who he sees as a low born individual taking advantage of his relationship with the Queen</ins>. He <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">also </ins>finds it horrifying that someone from the India subcontinent has cultivated <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">can even create </ins>a close relationship with his mother.<ref>For more on Edward, see:  Ridley J (2013) <i>The Heir Apparent: A Life of Edward VII, the Playboy Prince</i>. First U.S. edition. New York: Random House.</ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Abdul Karim is a cleric serving in Agra India for the British rulers. He is selected to go to Britain, along with a colleague Mohammed, for the Queen's Golden Jubilee, marking 50 years on throne. Initially, both men are surprised by this appointment but dutifully go. The men are trained for the ceremonies that are to follow for the Jubilee celebrations, but they are treated poorly given uncomfortable accommodations that are damp, cold, and cramped. When it comes time, however, for the men to play their role, and after the Queen arrives for a formal banquet with her guests, she receives a <i>mohur</i>, a type of gold coin, from Abdul. This was an item that was to represent a gift from India to Victoria, as she is Empress of India. However, the Queen is more fascinated with Abdul than anything else. She soon forms a bond with him, asking him to teach her Urdu and about Islam. Nevertheless, their relationship suddenly grows tense when she finds out Abdul is married. She then decided to have him go back and bring his wife to live in England along with Abdul, with him continuing to serve her in <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">her </del>household.  Meanwhile, the other courtiers are increasingly bothered by the close relationship Abdul and Victoria form, including Edward, the future King of Great Britain, who is troubled by his mother's relationship with Abdul. Victoria, recognizing she is Empress of India, wants to learn more about India and decides to decorate part of her home in the Isle of Wight in an Indian style. She continues to make progress in understanding Urdu. Abdul now has the formal title of <i>Munshi</i> as Victoria's teacher.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Abdul Karim is a cleric serving in Agra India for the British rulers. He is selected to go to Britain, along with a colleague Mohammed, for the Queen's Golden Jubilee, marking 50 years on throne. Initially, both men are surprised by this appointment but dutifully go. The men are trained for the ceremonies that are to follow for the Jubilee celebrations, but they are treated poorly given uncomfortable accommodations that are damp, cold, and cramped. When it comes time, however, for the men to play their role, and after the Queen arrives for a formal banquet with her guests, she receives a <i>mohur</i>, a type of gold coin, from Abdul. This was an item that was to represent a gift from India to Victoria, as she is Empress of India. However, the Queen is more fascinated with Abdul than anything else. She soon forms a bond with him, asking him to teach her Urdu and about Islam. Nevertheless, their relationship suddenly grows tense when she finds out Abdul is married. She then decided to have him go back and bring his wife to live in England along with Abdul, with him continuing to serve her in <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the royal </ins>household.  Meanwhile, the other courtiers are increasingly bothered by the close relationship Abdul and Victoria form, including Edward, the future King of Great Britain, who is troubled by his mother's relationship with Abdul. Victoria, recognizing she is Empress of India, wants to learn more about India and decides to decorate part of her home in the Isle of Wight in an Indian style. She continues to make progress in understanding Urdu. Abdul now has the formal title of <i>Munshi</i> as Victoria's teacher.</div></td></tr>
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The court officials and Prime Minister find out Abdul has gonorrhea, but again the Queen stays loyal to Abdul. With all this plotting, the Queen now decides to Knight Abdul, which the entire household of the Queen finds completely unacceptable. The staff threaten to resign unless Victoria rescinds her offer to Abdul. She then confronts her entire household about their rebellion, although none offer to resign. The Queen informs her household though she will only make Abdul <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">a </del>Commander of the Royal Victorian Order, a lower honour than being knighted. Soon after, the Queen becomes increasingly sick and becomes bedridden. She realizes that the court will turn against Abdul once she is gone. However, Abdul stays with the Queen until her end. However, just as the Queen predicted, soon after she dies the court and Edward turn on Abdul. They destroy his gifts and even the Queen's own accounts of her time with Abdul, leaving relatively little for historians. Abdul's wife <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">saves on </del>present, a locket, while they are then forced to flee back to India. A few years later, Abdul is shown still talking and revering the Queen by tending to her statue in an area near the Taj Mahal. In 1909, Abdul dies and <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">it much </del>of the story about Abdul only <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">came </del>to light years after Victoria died.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Abdul and Victoria form a close relationship that is like mother and son, with Victoria preferring to spend more time with Abdul than her own son. However, the court begins to create trouble. First, they call out a lie that Abdul told Victoria about the Indian Mutiny<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, a prolonged Indians rebellion against British rule</ins>, where he downplayed rebellions by some of the Indian population. After learning about this lie<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, and because he embarrassed her as the Queen's courtiers corrected information she though she knew</ins>, Victoria decided to expel Abdul but then changes her mind <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">at the last moment</ins>. They also learn that, despite Abdul's initial presentation, Abudl does not have royal or noble blood, thus he exalted his social status to Victoria<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">. But again Victoria is not bothered by this</ins>. The Marquess of Salisbury, who is Prime Minister, also gets involved in trying to get rid of Abdul. The court officials and Prime Minister find out Abdul has gonorrhea, but again the Queen stays loyal to Abdul <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">and is not put off by this</ins>. With all this plotting, the Queen now decides to Knight Abdul, which the entire household of the Queen finds completely unacceptable. The staff threaten to resign unless Victoria rescinds her offer to Abdul. She then confronts her entire household about their rebellion, although none offer to resign <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">when given the opportunity</ins>. The Queen informs her household though she will only make Abdul Commander of the Royal Victorian Order, a lower honour than being knighted<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, although most still do not like this choice</ins>. Soon after, the Queen becomes increasingly sick and becomes bedridden. She realizes that the court will turn against Abdul once she is gone. However, Abdul stays with the Queen until her end <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">and in 1901 she passes</ins>. However, just as the Queen predicted, soon after she dies the court and Edward turn on Abdul. They destroy his gifts and even the Queen's own accounts of her time with Abdul, leaving relatively little for historians <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">and others to learn about her time with Abdul</ins>. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Despite the confrontational way in which Abdul and his family were removed from court, </ins>Abdul's wife <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">managed to save one </ins>present <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Victoria gave Abdul</ins>, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">which was </ins>a locket, while they are then forced to flee back to India. A few years later, Abdul is shown still talking and revering the Queen by tending to her statue in an area near the Taj Mahal. In 1909, Abdul dies and <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">most </ins>of the story about Abdul <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">became lost </ins>only <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">to come </ins>to light years after Victoria died <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">because Abdul's family did save records of their time together</ins>.</div></td></tr>
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